myaru: (Xenogears - Emeralda)
This compiles all the Xenogears "meta" I thought was worth leaving a direct link to, and also translations.

I think my FE posts are way more awesome, but that's just because my Xenogears posts are older.


2011-12 replay, translations, and so-called meta, right this way... )

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I keep wondering if I should make an index post for fics as well, since my Xeno fics are far less numerous than Fire Emblem. But, now that I think about it, I haven't written much worth indexing... or that I would think is worth showing off now, anyway.
myaru: (Xenogears - Emeralda)
You know, I just realized today: I think everything before Aquavy is boring as hell.

Also, Shitan = Stephen Colbert. Seriously - look at him.

You're welcome.

Okay, story. You have to keep in mind that we're finding it hard to take certain things about this game seriously - the dialogue, for example. The game might throw a dramatic scene at us, say the moment in Blackmoon forest when Elly threatens to shoot Fei, and as soon as she says "Drop your weapon!" (but he doesn't have any weapons!) my husband says on Fei's behalf - "I can't drop these guns!" and holds up his fists, and we all crack up. So much for drama.

Speaking of dialogue - after finding out Dazil doesn't have any parts for Weltall, Shitan decides it'd be a good idea to salvage broken down gears in the desert, and tells Fei to stay put like a good boy. So what does he do? Naturally he runs out into the desert, steals some poor soldier's motorcycle and leaves him to die (yeah, 'sorry' will cut it, I'm sure!), and follows the good doctor. As soon as Fei finds him - or rather, is found - somebody new crashes the party and confesses to instigating the Lahan incident for kicks.

Grahf: A greater power... is what I need to fulfill my mission. I sent those Gears into that land as a catalyst to awaken the power in you... To make contact with you.

Fei: As a catalyst!? You mean you caused that intentionally!?

Grahf: That's right. The death of your loved ones... And you powerless against it happening... The grief, the screams from your heart born out of the tragedy… There! That was the catalyst
for triggering your power.

[...]

Grahf: Hah, hah, hah... You resemble your father.

Fei: My father? You mean my dad? You know my father!?

Grahf: That was... a most delightful scream. I was enthralled by it. Nothing is more beautiful than a scream of death.


We were waiting for the dad line. I mean. It will live in my memory forever! But what gets me is Grahf's dialogue. I remembered him as more... oh, monolithic? Formal? Maybe that's Rune's fault - it was all him, and the game was actually lackluster. Grahf should be fucking Shakespearean, and instead he's talking like a cheesy cartoon villain. Alas. :/ For the record - since I think my post on this was locked - the original Japanese dialogue was slightly less redundant, in that it used two completely different words for "father" with different connotations, as follows:

グラフ: ふふふふ。 …似ておるな。  父親に。
フェイ: 父親?  親父?  お前、親父を知っているのか?!


We came to the conclusion "父親" is basically a way of referring to someone else's parents (vs. your own), while "親父" is more intimate and less formal; so in essence, Fei was just repeating what Grahf said verbatim, and then clarifying. I still think it's ridiculous and redundant, but this is Xenogears. And yes, this is more than anybody wanted to know. :P

This just furthers my theory that Square dropped a thousand page script on the translator's desk and was like, "Can you have this done in a month y/y? :D" That would explain everything!

Now back to the story. After Grahf verbally sucker-punches Fei, the Aveh army shows up to grab Weltall! And Shitan mutters that he should've guessed the army would be looking for it; bringing it into the desert was a dumb idea. I'm inclined to agree except for one thing: given Shitan's seeming motivation to get Fei the hell away from Lahan, and the fact that he's, y'know, A SPY, my theory is that every time something unlucky happens to Fei, Shitan did it on purpose.

So I'm just going to play the game with this in mind. It'll be fun! He couldn't have engineered Bart's trigger-happy appearance OR COULD HE, but he works it to his advantage pretty quick, now doesn't he?

Now that I've blundered my way through the damned stalactite cave and made it to Balthazar's place, I think Fei AND Bart are morons. They're perfect for each other.

Old Man Bal: Haven't you heard of this story...? They say that humans and God lived together in a paradise in the sky. With God's protection, there was no fear of death, and natural disasters were entirely unknown. Then one day, humans ate a forbidden fruit which gave them incredible wisdom. But God drove mankind from the paradise for their sin. Bitter at having been driven out of paradise, humans used the wisdom they had to make giants. With these giants, they planned to challenge God himself. But God poured his wrath down on them. All who defied God were destroyed. But God himself did not escape unharmed. Taking paradise with him, the wounded God buried himself deep beneath the ocean to sleep for eons. Before going to sleep, God used his remaining power to create right-hearted humans to live on this planet. These people are said to be... our ancestors.


I find this interesting for a few reasons, and none of them are the right ones, just so you know. It's close enough to the Garden of Eden myth that when I used to think back (say, for fic purposes), I assumed it was more or less the same. As it turns out, it's more like a weird mix of Eden and... Babel? (Appropriate!) Yeah, that's it. Insert pretentious analysis here. My main interest was in the hilarious commentary on evolution that preceded it. "Pfff, that evolution crap? Clearly, according to these fossils, humans spontaneously sprang into existence ten thousand years ago!" And god is a machine. Who came first, Xenogears or Angel Sanctuary? (This is actually a difficult question to answer, as AS doesn't reveal the nature of its god until the end...)

Oh yeah, and there's the allusion to the opening movie that I totally missed the first time I played this game (forbidden fruit --> you shall be as gods) and the giants are obvious in context with the game, but sound like a thinly-veiled allusion to my favorite Genesis myth (Watchers). Only, this is the one story ripping off Genesis that doesn't use "the sons of god" for inspiration.

Unless - I wonder if there is an argument to be made for Watchers = omnigears. My memory of canon is too dim to offer any insight. It's just, considering the nature of the "god" in this legend, and that omnigears are kinda sorta a merging of pilot (human) and angelic equivalent... yeah, anyway. This is totally off in left field, I know. It could be useful, though. For those fics I will never write.

I'm kind of curious when and where the game will drop hints like the allusion to the opener, since it's almost too subtle for the kind of player I was when I first picked Xenogears up. :/ I was pretty dumb when I was eighteen. I don't think I even cracked open a bible until I finished this game. Then again, that's not unusual, if my classmates in college were anything to go by.

Huh, yeah, this was a pretty useless entry.
myaru: (Xenogears - I cheerfully dissect)
I have a reputation in Xeno fandom for being extremely pretentious (ha ha, FE, you thought you had the corner on that opinion!), but I'm going to fail hard at that, because my thoughts on the game right now can be summarized pretty easily as, "lololol foreshadowing!" and "dude, I don't remember Shitan being such a dick! Yes."

Citan = Shitan on my blog, just get used to it.

I bought the rom (or whatever you want to call it) on the PSN as soon as we bought a PS3. In fact, I put myself $10 in the hole for this game, just so you all know how much I love it. Ten bucks! It's a fortune. Most of the game looks fine, but I'm sad to say the intro movie suffers on our monitor screen; I don't know if the problem is just the screen, or that we're using HDMI (which seems most likely), but it was pixelly as hell. Ick. The intro is still awesome, though, and as a bonus, all of the technobabble made sense to me this time! You have to enjoy the intro, guys, because it's the first and last time the localizers bothered to sync the dialogue to the animation. First and last. Oh, the coincidence.

Remember, though: this was released back in the days when nobody gave a damn about the quality of dubbing. Or... maybe they did, but it sure doesn't sound like it. :D To be fair, the intro also looks like the last time the original animators cared about how good the art looked!

Well now. Lahan is only the most boring place on earth, and Dan is the creepiest little bastard in the entire game - this is counting Big Joe. I got out and ran up to Shitan's house as soon as I could, and this is where he takes over the post, because seriously - I didn't remember so many backhanded insults coming out of our sweet country doctor. Let's see: first he sends Fei into the garage to look at the music box, and drops so many heavy-handed hints I'm surprised Fei didn't remember under the sheer weight of them. Then he sends Fei in for dinner, and seems to be saying they shouldn't eat too much because it's good food, but what comes out is, "I won't be held responsible if you get a stomach ache from my wife's cooking!" Riiiiiight. Then he says he'll take his own camera equipment down because he isn't comfortable letting Fei handle it - and this is a reference to an earlier conversation with Dan, but he didn't know about that! So what it looks like he's saying is, "Sorry, no, I don't trust you with my camera equipment, butterfingers!"

Right, so: gears attack Lahan, Fei blows everything up and conveniently forgets about it, and Shitan hints he should take a walk and not come back. Enter Blackmoon Forest!

I feel so fucking lost without an area mini map. So lost. And to add insult to injury, the trees were always in my way when I tried to make a jump - no matter how I turned the camera! Fuck that camera. You know what else I feel naked without? A zoom-out option. This game feels extremely claustrophobic now that I'm used to newer games and all the modern conveniences therein. (This bodes ill for Babel Tower.)

Elly. Oh Elly. You should be so awesome, but you get knocked out twice in the space of twenty minutes so our young, dashing, angsty hero can save you. What the hell kind of soldier are you, anyway? You don't see Kelvena getting her ass handed to her by an imp! Come on. You do have a point about Fei being an angsty brat, and you get points for realizing your own hypocrisy, but can we please be finished with the damsel-in-distress thing? Please?

Yeah, not going to happen. I know. It hurts. She has the willpower (and firepower) to do great things, but almost never uses it unless her boyfriend is in trouble. Sigh.

I do still love her, but. :|

Shitan conveniently appears again while you're trying to save Elly the second time and drops a gear on you! And then he and Fei have this little gem of an exchange:
Citan:Fei! Are you alright?

Fei:Yeah... I guess so...

Citan:That fight with the Rankar was remarkable. An ordinary Gear could not defeat that monster.
And you certainly keep yourself in good shape...


And you certainly keep yourself in good shape? Ahahahaha why. WHY. All the Shitan/Fei art is coming back to me! I bet I can even still find some on my hard drive.

Seriously though. I'm sure there's a completely reasonable explanation over in the Japanese script. Or not.

No joke, by this time in my first playthrough I was convinced Shitan would betray me some time during the game. First he has that conversation with Elly before he tells her to take a hike, and then he has cryptic conversations with Sigurd, and by the time he finally confessed to being Solarian, I was waaaaay ahead of that game. I mean, it's not that hard to figure out.

Dazil still has the coolest town theme in the game, with the exception of Solaris. Solaris wins because it's such a ridiculous juxtaposition that your brain explodes.

... yeah. As you can see, this retrospective isn't going to be insightful in any way.

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I'm using this replay as an opportunity to motivate myself to actually do that rewrite of Guardian Angels. It's only a few dozen pages, right? But it was so hard to get started. Now some of the project might actually get done. I rewrote the FAQ (but have not posted it yet), and will start with the worst of the character pages. From there, we'll see. I did that translation of the Solarian government all that time ago, so I may as well use it, right?
myaru: (Xenogears - I cheerfully dissect)
LMN moved to a new server a while ago, which I forgot to announce; in the process TC re-acquired the zenogias.com domain and added it to both Guardian Angels and The Nisan Sanctuary archive - so now you can see them with their original addresses, as well as the Lea Monde location we've all grown to love. This means people who see my old wallpaper graphics and use the zenogias URL on the side no longer end up at a porn site! (Ha ha, see, this is relevant to the topic introduced in the subject line.) This... is old news, actually, but I couldn't resist the obvious bad joke, so er.

I'm actually posting this so I can reference it later if I ever get around to writing those articles for the Analysis section at GA. The outlook isn't optimistic, but you never know.

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There was a lot of talk about Bayonetta when it came out; I haven't played the game, so I won't pass judgment on either the creator's intentions or what his work actually accomplishes - or fails at, whichever you happen to think. [livejournal.com profile] acebullet and I were talking about nudity in games and how exploitative it is in each situation, which naturally brought us to Xenogears because, as those of you who have played the game know, there's a lot of nudity in the game, both male and female. What inspired this entry was the speedo scene - not because it's exemplary of how well Xenogears handles nude characters, but because it's exceptional in context with the rest of the game for being considered either funny or disgusting by the fan base.

On that particular topic, we speculated the scene would have been more serious if Ramsus's sprite were naked; the speedo inspires eye-rolling, wincing, and takes away from the real content of the scene, which is Kahr's dream and the following conversation between Grahf and Miang. It can't be argued that nudity would be too explicit, because the game sprites aren't detailed or refined enough to pose a problem; secondly, the game doesn't shy away from the issue in later scenes at all. Both Fei and Elly, as well as Emeralda, are shown with no apparent covering at other points in the game.

So, I would say that nudity in Xenogears is entirely a spiritual matter. It's used as a metaphor for birth (of the individual, of humanity), intimacy (physical and emotional), and the individual's spiritual state, just as the presence of clothes in scenes depicting sex or communion with god is a metaphorical barrier, as in the Ramsus and Miang scene, or a later scene between Kim and Elly.

Here's a list of scenes I'm thinking about:

Scene 1: game introduction, Miang on the beach before she creates her first "children"
Scene 2: after Ramsus's dream; both Miang and Ramsus are in bed and undressed
Scene 3: Zeboim ruins; Emeralda is formed and stolen from her nano-tank
Scene 4: Solaris; Elly's shower, which both she and Fei use, but their figures are misted out
Scene 5: Taura's house; Fei and Elly are healed in nano-reactors
Scene 6: Yggdrasil; Fei and Elly finally come together; technically two scenes, before and after
Scene 7: Fei speaks to the Wave Existence; note the presence of clothing
Scene 8: Zeboim, memory; just Elly, but Kim is present and half-dressed
Scene 9: within Deus; the confrontation between Fei and Krelian, with Elly present but asleep
Scene 10: ending sequence; Elly is freed; Krelian appears to help them and apologize

Other: each form of the Nisan angels (cathedral, Merkava)

My memory of the game is slightly misty, and the memorial album doesn't show everything via screenshot. Let me know if I missed any. Ten seems like too perfect a number.

Anyway, in each case, character nudity seems to serve a kind of thematic purpose. Scenes one and three imply genesis or rebirth, literal both times, although there are also other implicit beginnings in those scenes (the beginning of the cycle of reincarnation, the plan to revive Deus). In every scene where Elly and Fei are stripped down together (four, five, six), there's some kind of emotional revelation going on as well; note that in scene eight, Kim's flashback, he's half-dressed, but she isn't at all (although I think she's covered, at least? again, I can't remember, and don't have a screenshot), which is the next point.

In scene two, Ramsus is wearing some kind of clothing; in scene eight, Kim is as well. In scene seven, Fei is shown dressed, even though in every other scene involving this kind of spiritual meeting, nobody is wearing clothes to my memory. In these scenes clothing would seem to be functioning as some kind of barrier - emotional, psychological, spiritual. When Fei first meets the Existence, just as when Lacan did, the meeting is incomplete because they need Elly.

Spiritually speaking, we have Miang's genesis, scene five, in which Fei and Elly both meet their memories of each other, the aforementioned scene with the Existence, and then the last two, in which Fei, Krelian, and Elly all confront the issue of their own humanity and the necessity of a god. In addition to that is the Nisan angels, which are always depicted nude, and symbolize the path to god. Considering all that, I'd have to say that while the character designs certainly exploit women if you want to look at it that way, the instances where people run around naked are completely serious.

There's probably more that can be taken from this, but I'm just stating the obvious conclusions, here.

Xenogears has more nude character portraits than any other game I can think of, which... amuses me. What a distinction.
myaru: (Xenogears - Emeralda)
First, a lengthy quote (from here) to set the tone:

[Scene: Zeboim ruins]

Anyway, Elly flipping out has the nice bonus that she suddenly knows how all the computer equipment works, and she starts hitting buttons! This causes a large glass tube to rise up out of the floor, and then a young girl to appear within it.

This narration would make the obvious comparison to a troll doll, but everyone has made the obvious comparison to a troll doll, so let's just all agree that she looks like a troll doll and move on.

[...]

Shitan: This girl appears to be an artificial lifeform created inside the reactor. She was probably assembled in the reactor by using that series in the database in the control room... which means she's...

Stone: Our MacGuffin! [...] I'll just be taking that nanomachine colony with me, thank you!


During the drive to SoCal for Thanksgiving, [livejournal.com profile] acebullet and I started talking about Xenogears and its flaws, most notably - for this entry, anyway - characters who appear to serve no real purpose in the actual game: Emeralda and Rico. Let's ignore for the moment that one could argue this describes every player character but Fei, Shitan, and Elly, who are essential to the storyline on the first disc. I quoted the above because in the resulting discussion, Zach said the same thing about Emeralda: she's the MacGuffin, and otherwise insignificant.

On one hand, I have to protest, because she is involved in the Fei/Elly storyline, but... it's also true that the cell samples Krelian took from Emeralda - her "purpose" for appearing in the game - could have been taken from some bit of nanotechnology that wasn't humanoid and obsessed with Fei. Hell, Krelian could have just lifted more information from one of Kim's essays to accomplish his goal, in theory. Likewise, Kim and Elly could have died defending each other instead of their nanomachine daughter, as they did in every other incarnation.

All I can say in Emeralda's defense, reasonably, is that she's present to replace Elly as your ether user for gameplay purposes once you reach the second disc - not that there's much action on the second disc to begin with. She has a reason for existing, but her place in the storyline isn't absolutely essential as the other three are. She isn't even Animus. The storyline abandons Emeralda after you fight her at the Gate so far as I recall and only revisits her if you decide to run back down to Zeboim to look for treasure and happen to have her in your battle party. [edit: wait, was she part of the solution to the Wels problem on the second disc? Like I can remember these things. Emeralda's fate is to be society's petri dish.]

Anyway, she, like Rico, could be a casualty of the design process. So many things were. Sometimes I'm surprised we didn't all drop the game at Kislev and never pick it up again. :P

All that said, I like Emeralda, and do not object to her presence in-game, nor do I think she's purposeless; just that she could have a) been better developed, and b) been introduced with a little more... ah, set up? I don't know. I never thought about it, to be honest, but I also didn't think Xenogears was confusing - and I'm not sure if that's a mark in my favor or not, considering what people think of the game's execution. :P

I'm completely ignoring Rico in this entry - just like the game! :D But we already know he was screwed by the development process. Honestly, if they'd left Kislev out of the game completely, it would be better - not because Kislev isn't worth exploring, but because they didn't complete what they were trying to do there. Alas, axing it would have been extra work and time too.

Ha ha ha, now I've just offended every Emeralda and Rico fan there is, haven't I? But I have a reputation for doing that sort of thing.
myaru: (Xenogears - Emeralda)
This all started with with Milton, because Book 9 is about the fall of man, and you find quotes like ye shall be as gods, and-- of course I thought of the opening movie from Xenogears. (What else would I think of? Not the nature of sin, please.) Watching that reminded me of the other quote - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end (Rev 22:12) - which everyone is so proud of finding and reporting to me for GA's references section.

The inference is pretty clear: )

The problem here is equating the Tree of Knowledge to the Path of Sephirot, which kind of seems to happen in the game, but not really. That is, the path to god is twofold - one way to get there is via Razael, which Krelian chooses to use. He chooses knowledge, Fei chooses... life. Or action. I'm not sure, but I think in Kabbalah, if you equate the sephirot with anything, the path is tied up with the Tree of Life, not Knowledge. Maybe I'm oversimplifying that. This is only a problem because Takahashi's script screws with what I actually read. I mean, what it's saying is that there isn't only one path - that's the meaningful, didactic lesson in this story. The entire game pounds that into your head.

Fei merges and releases with Zohar, in Grahf's words. That's the goal. So he ascends the path, finds the Existence, and returns. That's the basic mystic journey. I really wish I liked Fei more if he's going to be the quintessential mystic of Xenogears. I used to think of Krelian that way, but he does something else. He uses the knowledge to transform himself - and I guess in that way he's parallel to Enoch, who is the real Mystic of mystics - but I'm not sure how I feel about this. If Razael = Knowledge, he commits the sin of taking from the tree, and so he is the fallen man, and Fei is the transcendent, spiritually. The latter is true, but is the former? Krelian's crime is the willful use of his knowledge to do terrible things. That's the essence of sin - but knowing isn't.

I'm not any closer to how I want to read that quote. The answer is: there's no clean parallel.

Also, analytic skill? None here.

It's been so long since I played that I have to rethink everything I thought back when I cared more. Damn. I think the problem I'm having has a lot to do with my last playthrough and my last reading of anything Kabbalah or religious were both in '05. Milton doesn't count. I need to find some theology on the fall.

Maybe I won't write those editorials.
myaru: (Xenogears - I cheerfully dissect)
So, many of us agree that Shitan probably can't cook to save his life. They might even mention that in the game somewhere! The question is why. [livejournal.com profile] reynardfox contends that he's just so absent-minded he'll get distracted with almost anything while cooking, and therefore whatever it is will end up burnt to a crisp or somehow explosive. I think he doesn't have a clue about cooking because in Solaris there's nothing to cook. You open a can of Soylent and there's dinner - maybe it's even self-heating! This is Solaris after all.

Then we got onto the subject of food in Solaris. I mean, it's not like you can avoid it. (That's canon!)

Shevat has hydroponic gardens. They also have real air, so I'm not sure if such a thing is possible in Solaris. :P It makes sense they'd have some kind of vegetable production because that's essential to proper nutrition. Vitamins can only do so much for you, no matter how many additives you pump into the manufactured food. We don't know how many people live in Solaris, but I figure if they do grow any kind of vegetables, the First Class citizens get first pick, and are probably most likely to afford them. Rare commodity = profit.

Shitan is technically Third Class, so I wonder how much of that he saw. He's military, which means rations. On the other hand, he took a lot of missions to the surface, so it's not like he didn't have opportunity to taste the finer things in life.

Actually, don't you wonder what he ate while he was at home? Because seriously, why would anybody put Solarian food into their mouth when they know what's in it?

But then: could they synthesize vegetables? Did they sell Soylent mainly as meat, but try to make some of it look... like not-meat? Or maybe they imported from the surface. They've got all of that free manpower on the Third Class level! The fuel might be killer, though. Zohar doesn't power 100% of everything.

This is all to say: Shitan wouldn't know how to cook veggies because, well, that's just not in the Solarian repertoire. Why he can't cook anything else is beyond me. Maybe all of his genius is aimed at tactics and engineering, and he just doesn't have the headspace for skills like boiling water.


Re: fic meme - I have ideas, will work. :D
myaru: (XG - True Miang)
The translation of the last section was yanked from an old entry.

Timeline and summary. )


Birth as Cain's copy, his connection with Miang. )


The Demon of Elul, the Elements. )

Ahhh. I forgot what a pain in the ass the Perfect Works is. Stupid book. Er. I didn't realize I was using 'Elul' instead of 'Elru' until it was too late. Oh well. :D

In any case, this sort of answers our questions about Bekka - since Kahr had not yet taken a humanoid form, I guess he just... latched onto Bekka like a parasite. That's kind of the implication. There must be more to it though, because that doesn't explain why or how. I guess you can reason that he was able to fuse with or absorb the kid because he was still in a malleable stage of development (a writhing mass of cells and such?), but... ^^;

Somebody needs to write up a theory on this and turn it into a story - but it won't be me!
myaru: (Xenogears - I cheerfully dissect)
The longer I do this, the more I love the early interaction between Jesse and Billy. I wish I had a save at that part of the game.

So here we go: Shitan's full profile, including the bits I've already posted for the sake of completion.

Timeline, character summary, Cain's Directive. )

Hyuga in Solaris - the plague, Ramsus, his connection with Jesse and Sigurd, etc. )

The Third Invasion, sealing his skills, Yui and Midori. )

Life in Lahan. )

... and then THEY ALL DIED.

That is, the townspeople. The character blurbs (for Lee, Timothy, Dan, Alice) aren't worth translating. They tell us exactly what happened during the game, or what you can learn by talking to the townspeople, and nothing more. They aren't even as important as the strike team, so they don't get any goodies from me.
myaru: (XG - True Miang)
I didn't want to do anything major. Here, have some characters nobody cares about. :P

Dominia, Kelvena, Tolone, Seraphita. )


Elly's Strike Team, Vanderkaum, other Solarian peons. )


Edit to add~

On the Elements, from Kahr's profile; info on the Strike Team. )

I'm sorry, but even I don't care about Vanderkaum, poor guy. So I skipped the paragraph on his ship. :P
myaru: (Default)
Gods, Zephyr's history is depressing. I finally got Word to be useful, but it's notorious for causing problems when one copies and pastes from the program to just about anything else. I'll fix whatever I spot, of course. If you have a problem displaying anything, let me know via comment. :D

Also, I must say... brand really does make a difference when it comes to grape soda. There's no getting around it!

PW p.193: Zephyr's history, Gaspar, Melchoir, Joshua Black. )

That finishes Shevat. Balthasar is somewhere else, and I don't feel like picking over his profile at the moment. That would almost obligate me to do Maria and Nikolai, and I want to stick to my list for now.

... HOWEVER, since Livejournal is down for some scheduled maintainence that I don't think was actually scheduled, I guess I'll have to do some more work. WTF, LJ. (I just know there's going to be an issue with the text I copied, and I'll have an extra long entry to painstakingly edit after this.)



Mystina: 'from the developer's room' Q&A. )

The entire VP section was troublesome because of its conversational style. I was going to wait on posting it, but sleeping on it probably won't yield any sudden answers. And if it does, I'll make the changes tomorrow. Believe it or not, I do sleep. :p
myaru: (Face first.)
Okay, I have to ask. For those of you who use Japanese input in Windows, how retarded does it get for you? Because there are times I can type up whatever I need, and other times when it won't register common words, whether I type them correctly or not. It is such a pain in the ass to piece words together by individual kanji just because my program can't get it together during the full moon, or whatever the hell its problem is.

I can't get it to render 'tsuzuku' either, but that might be a genuine program flaw. Dunno. Am pissed off whenever I run into the issue, regardless. :D

Jesse: profile is more or less complete with this installment. )

Now, back to our scheduled entries. >_>

It turns out I didn't have as much on Mystina as I thought, so she'll take a bit longer. What I have now is the "From the Developer's Room" box, , which is the same section I did for Jayle. The latter's relation to the knights wasn't what I needed, so I didn't do anything with her character sketch, but I'm much more interested in the insight Mysty's section will give for her character.

That can wait until tomorrow. :p I had a Suiko-themed entry that will also have to wait. Oh well.


Edit (06.30.07): corrections made with [livejournal.com profile] totorojo's insight~

Edit 2 (07.20.07): silly me. Shitan says during the game - or implies, anyway, as good as - that Billy was the cause of Jesse's 'shotgun wedding.' I guess that explains the timing of his marriage. :p
myaru: (Xenogears - I cheerfully dissect)
This has been half done for at least a week. I kept meaning to get back to it, but distractions keep popping up! Girl #3 will soon have an adorable dragon plushy, for instance. :D

Every entry, I think I'll have to remind myself of what I actually plan to read. >_>

Planned:
- XG: Miang (Zeboim)
- XG: Krelian (everything re: Solaris war)
- XG: Billy's profile (and related people)
- XG: completion of Solarian social structure
- VP: Hai-Lan national data
- VP: Freya and Frei
- VP: Jayle
- LE: Delphine
- FFXII: timeline
- Suiko: Sarah
- XG: Queen Zephyr
- XG: Jesse

In progress:
- XG: Shitan
- VP: Mystina

If I have time:
- XG: Rico and Hammer
- FFT: timeline (in V-Jump strat guide)

I'm just doing what interests me right now - this could change. I hadn't decided on Hai-Lan for my VP spree until today. Limiting my fun with the gods to just Freya and Frei (which is actually mostly done, as is Mystina) will make this easier, too. And then some of this is me trying to confirm information I already have (Krelian, Sarah).

Now, for the entry I've been sitting on for the last few days. It isn't much, but I've been playing Zelda doing very important things.

More on Jesse, PW page 191. )

Oh, and some Zephyr. )


Completely unrelated, I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thinks the VP Silmeria guide sucked. It really, truly did. Someday I'll compare scans of the Japanese publication and the US excuse for a guide, because the difference is truly stunning. Aside from getting information wrong, they chose the worst possible way to render dungeon maps. It's so bad that I concluded they wanted to make the game more confusing - there's no other explanation. :P
myaru: (Miang: The Emperess)
There's more - oh so much more! This book is well over three hundred pages, after all. I'll try not to spam you, between this and any pointless rambling I decide to do, but I mean... it's going to be hard.

Slicing this book out of its binding was the best thing I could have done. It's so much easier to work with now! I should've done this years ago.

Primera. )

Stone better not be as much of a pain in the ass. :D

Ethos and Orphanage: Bishop Stone and other related characters. )

Well, guys. I may suck at this, but it is helping me remember all of that kanji I thought I forgot! For that alone it's worth the effort. And look how I get sucked into doing work I wasn't planning to tackle:

Jesiah: history box. )

The first entry, "While in Solaris" has been started, but I'll do that and Jesse's other entries tomorrow. I spent a lot of time on part of Prim's, and now I'm just tired of playing with Japanese.

I'm not sure I'll do the paragraph on why he left his family, since the game explains that to an extent, and the timeline tells us the rest. His summary paragraph expands on the timeline, and tells us that he left Solaris when he found out about the M Project... actually, I think I might bother with the first paragraph of the summary, never mind. (Geez, you know that if I do one, I'll do the other. -_-)

After all of that, I'm still not much closer to deciding what to do about that Billy fic.
myaru: (I hate humanity.)
I love this music track so much. Oh Kajiura. Between Kajiura (Xenosaga III) and Sakuraba (Valkyrie Profile Silmeria), I'm in music heaven.

Okay, on to business! Now translating Billy Lee Black, p.190:
Remember, kids, I use the official version of in-game terms as often as possible!

History box (timeline). )

This profile has an unmarked summary paragraph that kind of covers what we already know (what he is, what he does, etc. - basically repeating the timeline), so I'll do that last. :D It does say, however, that the 3000G Billy nearly sold himself for is the equivalent of three hundred thousand yen, which is about $2500 USD. (That can't be right, can it? Um...) I think he should have asked for more ala virgin price. :P Unless... no. No, we won't go there. What the hell was the Ethos doing, anyway?

It... also tells us that he has a bit of a complex, and always wears his hair short because he is so easily mistaken for a girl.

This speaks for itself, doesn't it? I'll try really hard not to laugh. XD There is more on this further down!

His mother, Raquel. )

After this section, Prim is all that's left. Stone has a short paragraph on the next page; I'll probably get to those tomorrow, although you never know. I'm not in the writing mood today.

Becoming an Etone, and the Orphanage. )

Hmm, okay. Prim and Stone definitely wait until tomorrow. Along with corrections! The cat has decided it's time to take a break.
myaru: (Miang: The Emperess)
.... okay, search for the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn via library catalog is a big failure. Sigh. I really didn't want to PAY for that book right now, since I'm trying not to spend money by the bucketload. I didn't check my school library, so maybe that'll be more successful. ^^ Google gives me a long list of links for official pages (so, uh, which one is really the official page?), so I'll explore via lazy online research methods and see what comes up.

This is for a story, you see. Esoteric practices at the turn of the twentieth century have piqued my interest.

Also, [livejournal.com profile] reynardfox? I just found the old Uzuki family image file. :P ASGAFDASFDS

Aaaaaaanyway. OMG, I have more to say about Xenogears. (AUGH! Flashbacks!) But not that much, I promise. I was actually thinking more about Suikoden today, when I was awake enough to think about anything coherant. (The midterm paper I tried to write is hilarious.)

There must be a PW page or two on how Zeboim died, and I'm suddenly very interested in it. And while looking for it, I'm finding other things! Like:

Year 6081 (Ethos translation)
. . . Miang receives Kim's thesis and Miang, who is interested in advancing human evolution, meets up with Kim at the Federal Bureau of Medical Affairs. During the course of their conversation, Miang offers to sponsor a facility at which Kim may continue working on his research. Kim accepts the offer and again begins research and development on Nanotechnology . . .

This just gives me chills. I don't know why. The idea of Miang interacting with Fei or Elly in other generations is very interesting to me, because there's no precedent set by the game for how she would socialize with them. Besides the obvious, I mean. Part of me always wanted to think there would be a chilling spark of recognition deep down in either Fei or Elly, though they might not realize it. The game kinda sorta implies this when they show us Miang's transformations, where her host's hair morphs into that ridiculous electric purple.

That brings up a lot of questions, though. Karen's hair didn't change. The excuse used to be that her hair was too dark, but that doesn't make any sense if the Miang program overrides everything. :p I think we later concluded that the purple hair shown in flashbacks was just a design element built into the game/story direction, so we'd immediately recognize her, even though her incarnations aren't literally identical.

But hm. Miang's presence might change the host's physical appearance as we thought; perhaps Karen's didn't change as drastically because she was still fighting for control. Rune and I played a lot with the potential psychological battle between Miang and Karen, and also Kahn and Grahf. (And this is no longer related to Zeboim, ha ha! ^^;;)

Year 6053
Miang awakens as twin sisters (M0611 and M0612).

What I want to know, in relation to the upper paragraph: where in hell is her other half? Did she off it and merge again? Did it affect her in any weird ways? Throw us a bone, here.

But this is what I was looking for:

Year 6082
From p.12: . . . a large shift of the tectonic plates sent Zeboim to the bottom of the ocean, and has thus disappeared from the face of the planet. -- and from p.13: an all-out nuclear war explodes, destroying more than 90% of the human population with bombings, residual radiation, and BC (bio-chemical) weapons.

I hadn't read this for a while, so while I was thinking about Zeboim's demise, all I could dredge up was the vague account we get in the game, which talks about nuclear war, but not much else. Since Zeboim is at the bottom of the ocean - in fact, it has to be below the ocean floor to survive the way it did - I thought something other than bombs might have been responsible for the destruction of the nation, at least in part. It's just so neat and clean, sitting down there, that I wondered if it might've been built underwater to begin with. Honestly, if the city was blown to the bottom of the ocean, why is it still intact? Earthquakes are not that kind!

Also, I admit - since Zeboiim was one of the cities of the plain in Genesis, destroyed along with Sodom, I kind of wanted to know for sure how Takahashi got rid of it. Come on, it had to be biblical in proportion. XD


Zeboiim is also on the brain because it's one of the elements that made me love Xenogears so much. Not the city itself, but the feeling I had when I discovered it, and when the game revealed its history. When I go down to the city ruin, or see the Mass Driver facility, it's like I'm looking at a piece of real history, or at least something so vast that it leaves me with the sense that there's substance there, or secrets to be found. I can't put a name to this - it's a little like awe, or reverence; it's like I'm looking deep into a well of vision and seeing things that could be.

I think Xenogears falls short of real verisimilitiude because of its blatant references to earth history and symbolism, but it comes closer than any other game I can think of, including Vagrant Story - though in all fairness, in terms of actual achievement, VS tops Takahashi's work. The feeling I can't put a name to is something I remember from my first reading of Lord of the Rings.

It's the subtle references that do it. Forgetting obvious stuff like names, what Xenogears did right, I think, was leave us with only subtle hints to the vast history that the team created for their storyline. The game gave us just enough that our imaginations could run wild. Even though I wish constantly that I had more information, or more consistent or reasonable information, I think this is one area where the game did everything right. (And it's where Xenosaga does everything wrong, but that's another topic!)

This is something I always keep in mind when writing real stories, so maybe I notice it more now. Not back when I played, but. It's interesting to think about what made me like Xenogears so much, since it has endured well enough that I'm still talking about it today, when I've lost interest in the fandom and fan activity, for the most part.


Next: what Hikusaak really does with his Circle Rune. (No, seriously, I mean it.)
myaru: (I hate humanity.)
I don't remember what I was looking at that inspired so much talk about Solaris, but it had something to do with racism and eugenics in the 1940s. There must be some sci-fi dystopia that Takahashi was modeling his sky city on, but to me it blatantly references details from Germany around that time. Not terribly important ones, but a few here and there.

Aveh was the same way. I looked at it and thought, "Heeeeey, look at that. Aveh is a barely industrial country that is occupied by colonial a foreign military force trying to take advantage of its location and/or resources!" I doubt that parallel was intentional, but you never know. (And anyway, I'd have to compare Kislev to Russia in that case, and I'm not sure I'm ready to do that. Besides, that's supposed to be Harmonia, not Kislev. :D)

In any case. In Solaris, research and societal expectations (especially the second part) promote a pretty black and white view. I find this notable because they obviously have the technology to destroy the stereotypes Solarian elites are perpetuating, and despite that, nobody questions their assumptions that we know of.

Of course, the government controls all research, and access to it. The government also packs Solarian rations full of mind-numbing drugs, so I'm not surprised by their complacency, just... kind of exasperated. It nukes any chance for intellectual renaissance, for one. (There goes my period Solaris-during-the-Nisan-Era story! ... kidding.) Thing is, I don't think drugs are enough to shut people up. They still have to be functional. You need military recruits, at least, and people to staff the offices that make sure their fellow citizens are drugged to the gills, right?

On one hand, it's not unreasonable to say that these people don't know any better, and therefore don't see any reason to protest their current state. But on the other, I think it's human nature to be dissatisfied with your lot, or to seek something different. Seeing the same thing day in and day out for extended periods of time gets freaking boring. (Actually, I may be shooting myself in the foot there; if you experience inertia for real, it eventually does lead to an ugly, chronic apathy.)

Originally I was going to bring this all to capitalism, see. :P My theory is that Solarians are completely clueless because they're obsessed with shiny toys. Living in Solaris is all about watching that holo girl dance, and getting brand new clothes at the boutique, and reading the latest trashy magazine about what Lord Krelian and Commander Ramsus were really doing in that elevator when it got stuck between floors at the palace.

I can't imagine that senario. It makes my brain explode.

Dammit, I forgot my point. Again.

What I should do is make myself sit down and read the other sections on Solaris, so I can get an idea of what kind of genetic experiments they were playing around with. We know about nanotechnology and biotech, but I almost want to classify those as totally military. The only whiff Solarians would get of nanotechnology, you'd think, would be the knowledge that they can go to the hospital and be fixed if they break something. Otherwise, why not use that awesome technology to clean up the gene pool? Because dude, all of those worker bees down on the lower level are contaminating the water supply.

I wonder if the plague that killed Hyuga's family ever left the classified files. It would reinforce the idea that land dwellers are dirty savages. That's another thing that made that 40s racism stick out at me. Look at it:

- land dwellers abducted and taken to Solaris are confined in work blocks, where they function as slave labor, and are victim to occasional purges or reprogramming.

- working hard and behaving is your ticket to being promoted to second class. In essence, and forgive me for the comparison, "work makes you free."

Citizens in both the second and third tiers seem to be aware of this quirk in Solarian hierarchy, and the higher class people don't seem to mind. In fact, many of them are probably upgraded third-class, or descended from someone out of the work block. I'm blaming this on their trippy version of genetics. Theoretically, I suppose they're clearing out the gene pool down on the working levels.

What they're really doing is teaching the language and figuring out who's more suceptible to drugged food, but.

- The use of "Jugend" as a filter for elite military is no coincidence. When Takahashi throws a name at you, he means it, even if the name itself doesn't mean anything in context. In this case, it does fit rather well.

- I have to say this, because it's so obvious: the superior breed, Gazel, are blond and blue-eyed almost exclusively. Billy is platinum. Elly is skirting the line of decency with her tripped out genetic code.

It's ironic, really, that Solaris's true elite soldiers are descended from land dwellers. Not surprising, though. I mean, look at this gene pool. :P

But you know what makes that okay to the average, second-class Solarian citizen?

The Four Elements Resin Figure set.

Can, uh, somebody draw that? Pretty please?
myaru: (Miang: The Emperess)
Okay. I'm in a Xeno mood, so I guess that's what this entry will be about! And first on the menu is a really freaking old translation (maybe two years old?) of the Solaris pages in PW's "Social Structure" chapter. Not word-for-word, as I was still nitpicking grammar at that point. Don't even bother to ask me to go back and do it again, because I don't care enough. :P Corrections, however, are welcome.

'What are you reading, Amber-san? Those terms don't mean anything!' -- uhhh, that was reassuring. )

What a pain. I know I typed this before somewhere, but I couldn't find it. ;_;

That bit about Aveh, Solaris, and other random bits will have to wait until next time, I guess. I'm going to waste my time sorting Xenogears and Xenosaga posts into new tags, because 'xeno' is getting cluttered.


Edit:
Oh, and - Roni Fatima. Nothing surprising here.
myaru: (I hate humanity.)
So, I haven't checked this for correctness yet - I'm trying to remember what I learned before my "vacation" from Japanese classes, so this is kind of an experiment. Feel free to correct. The last sentence especially twisted my brain a little. ^^ Man, do I need practice.

Original Japanese text. )

Translation:

Roni Fatima
Founder of the Kingdom of Aveh. During the Solaris War he was the commander of a large squad of troops. During the "Day of Collapse" he piloted an omnigear and repelled the advance of Grahf's Diabolos forces. Afterward, intending to establish a force in opposition to Solaris, he founded the nation of Aveh.


Notes:
1. Re: the last sentence, I interpreted it as a series of verb phrases with the stem "shi" for "suru" - which, as far as I remember, was one way to string a bunch of actions together in one sentence. That involves the use of commas in my textbooks, which this doesn't. Not that it means anything, considering. Anyway! There's another grammar item (haha) that involves a "-shi, -shi" thing, but I can't call it to mind.

2. The verb in parentheses, "uru" - which is how I looked it up, anyway - is supposed to mean "to obtain." I may have gotten it wrong. It just wouldn't render when I tried to type it in.

3. If you're J-enabled and reading this, but don't know Xenogears, "gear-bara" was translated as "omnigear" in the US version, so that's what I use. I think the designer's intent would have been too complicated to stuff into one English phrase in a hurry. ^^
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[livejournal.com profile] acebullet and I were talking about symbolism in literature on the way back from In-n-Out. (The food from which, by the way, was delicious as usual.) His art class is pretending to be a freshman English class at the moment, and we were reminiscing about the misery of high school English, in which teachers insist we discuss blatant symbolism and overinterpret every little thing.

Naturally, talk of blatant symbolism and over-interpretation led me to think about Xenogears, and various subjects of discussion over the- oh, is it eight years now? I feel so old when I say that.

But wait! This isn't about me making fun of Xeno fandom and my own inane rambling of the past (even though that would also be fun). It's more like... looking back at the symbols in the game that I recall, and trying to decide if any of them are really meaningful. There are certainly times when it isn't - the gears being named after Norse figures, for instance, which I still see no real point to - but there are bits and pieces that can actually be argued for. Of course, as with most symbolism, a lot of them are blatantly obvious. For example:

The emblem of Solaris: the sephirotic tree. I guess Solaris considers itself the path to god. (Really.) You actually can't read much farther than that and still have something that resembles the game.

Anima Relics: you can argue that naming them after the twelve tribes means something if you trace the relics back to the Gazel Ministry, but it starts to get mucked up around that point, and in the end, all you can really say is that the names sound religious (and therefore deep). I had an idea about this a long time ago, and I can't remember it.

Deus: is... god? Well, that's the surface reading, at least. Clearly we (and the characters) were supposed to think of it that way, but the name doesn't encompass the truth about Deus as he relates to the rest of the system, which is more complicated than this word.

Zohar: a difficult one. If you know something about the Zohar, it's blatantly obvious when you read what it tells Fei. If you don't know anything about it, you'll have no clue. Note also that the Zohar is very similar to the Monolith in 2001.

SOL-9000: related to the above, another 2001 reference, but it isn't... well, I guess it is like its namesake.

Soylent System: I'd never heard of Soylent Green when I played Xenogears, but if I had... :P (I still think what Shitan did there was an incredibly assholish move. XD I love him for that.)

I think I have to take back the second part of my judgement re: the Solarian Emblem, because you actually can take it farther, and still have something that resembles the motives of the Gazel Ministry. But like the Zohar, I don't think that's immediately obvious if you don't know anything about the background of the symbol. I'm guessing most people don't, and there's no reason they should know. More on that here. )

After thinking about this stuff, I decided that I thought Nisan's one-winged angels were the most effective "symbol" in the game, because they stood for things both obvious and not. A lot of it is obvious - dialogue tells you that the light or space between their hands represents the path to god, and also that they're unique as a symbol (compared to the symbols of other religions like the Ethos, I guess) because they have defined gender characteristics. After playing the game, they don't have to tell you that the angels symbolize the act of one human helping another and becoming whole, but they do anyway.

Part of what makes them effective is their multitude of meanings in the context of the game. It isn't always subtle, but they represent some of the most important themes in the game (humans gaining independence from god by helping one another; on the other side of the coin, humans joining together to reach god - which you can interpret in a few ways), and they're also representative of Fei and Elly specifically, and everything about their history. The angels have a really emotional function, which something like the instant horror of the Soylent System doesn't really live up to. I don't even like Fei, but his history with Elly throughout the ages did strike a chord, and the angels remind me of it every time I see them. They sort of embody both tragedy and hope.

The Zohar, while deep (and Deus, which gives it a second layer of interesting interpretive possibilities), doesn't really inspire the same kind of feeling. I have no sympathy for Zohar's dilemma. There's nothing in its existence I can relate to. It is - and is supposed to be - a really abstract part of the game that gives the story an underlying feeling of depth, if you follow what it's saying. And if you don't, it's just a bunch of gibberish. It's the one thing that is consistently misunderstood about this game. The Existence's dialogue, which is where all of the juicy information is, confuses people. That's why I don't think it's an effective reference, or symbol, or whatever you want to call these elements of the storyline.

The Nisan angels were easy to relate to and understand, even if you don't agree with their message. And every time you see them they mean something new, at least to me. Their meaning in Nisan's cathedral is completely different to the meaning I get from the image of the angels in Krelian's merkavah.

I once had an idea for a drawing where Krelian, standing on one outstretched hand, was reaching out to nothing - there would have been an empty gap where the second angel was supposed to be. It'll never see the light of day, because the Krelian shrine will never be finished, but that was the image I hoped to use in the layout.

It would've been nice to have all of these ideas back when I cared enough to see them through! But that's the way it is.

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